Gregory L. Smith wrote Shattered Glass: The Traditions of Mormon Same-Sex Marriage Advocates Encounter Boyd K. Packer in:
FARMS Review: Volume - 23, Issue - 1, Pages: 61–85
Provo, Utah: Maxwell Institute, 2011
FARMS Review: Volume - 23, Issue - 1, Pages: 61–85
Provo, Utah: Maxwell Institute, 2011
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These are some of my raw initial responses- I may make a more careful analysis later.
There is some irony
in the use of the Joseph Smith quote referencing traditions and preparing the
minds of the saints. The tradition of
the saints, at least in the last 50 years, is one of consistent heterosexism. President Packer's statements during this
same period have been consistent.
Where's the contrast to tradition?
A pro SSM stance contrasts; an anti SSM stance is in harmony.
"Thankfully, recent
years have seen at least some of the casual cruelty and unthinking disdain
inflicted upon this subset of God's children become less acceptable. Even yet
there is clearly work to do—for example, in opposing verbal and physical
violence—that no one of goodwill would oppose. And our present broad cultural
awareness of the past costs of racism and the exploitation of women, for
example, has happily led many to search themselves for other lingering
prejudices."
>> Props to
the author for this excerpt- it is near the beginning of the paper, signaling
import and context for what follows; it's sensible; and I think appropriately
categorizes homophobia alongside sexism and racism.
"unobjectionable
idea that private behavior between consenting adults in a pluralistic society
ought not to be criminalized"
>> Also a
reasonable concession.
"And yet, when all has been argued, the law of unintended consequences must surely have its due. No unaided mortal can say with certainty—or, I suspect, much justified confidence at all—where the proposed redefinition of marriage would ultimately lead us."
"And yet, when all has been argued, the law of unintended consequences must surely have its due. No unaided mortal can say with certainty—or, I suspect, much justified confidence at all—where the proposed redefinition of marriage would ultimately lead us."
>> Smith's
application of the precautionary principle is true in a narrow sense, but the
same argument can be made for doing nothing.
Consider slavery, which was for a period entrenched and traditional:
should society have reinforced that status quo for fear of unintended
consequences? For more on this vein,
see Sunstein's "The Paralyzing Principle" (http://heartland.org/sites/default/files/sites/all/modules/custom/heartland_migration/files/pdfs/11675.pdf).
We cannot predict
what the stock market will do in a week or ten years,4 and yet the advocates of
marital change blithely assure us that the far more complex human factors of
sociology and history will all work out for the best, say, two generations hence.
>> I'm not
sure this is a fair representation of the diverse views of marital change
advocates.
We have, in short,
in homosexuality a case tailor-made for demonstrating the benefits of prophetic
guidance, if such exists: the stakes are high; both perspectives have ardent,
well-meaning proponents; and the pervasive consequences of either choice will
be both serious and irrevocable.
>> I think
he's right about this. The pervasive
consequences of either choice are both serious and irrevocable.
Those hostile to the
church's legal agenda and religious teachings concluded overwhelmingly that
President Packer was teaching that (a) homosexual tendencies, attractions, or
temptations were not in-born or innate; and (b) one can always expect to be free
of such temptations or desires in this life if one lives the gospel.
>> This is a
hit below the belt. Though a somewhat
extreme interpretation, it is likely one that was overwhelmingly concluded by
many that were indifferent toward, unaware of, or in agreement with the
church's legal agenda and religious teachings.
Far from
backpedaling, the edited version is a smooth continuation of principles that he
has taught for over thirty years.
>> Hmmm-
perhaps, we'll see.
1. It may be
necessary to resist such temptation for a lifetime.
>> This
section reveals several of President Packer's troubling perceptions about
homosexuality. First, he refers to
addictions (only a small portion of the universe of homosexual feelings and
acts can be accurately considered as addictions). Second, he references a cure to evict
homosexual feelings: sexual orientation change is and has been for some time a
thoroughly disabused approach.
Third, the constant denial and
struggle against a homosexual identity by marginalizing homosexual feelings as
temptations, fueled by the bellows of hope that after following a prescribed
regimen the "unworthy feelings," has proven psychologically harmful
far more often than it has helpful.
"cannot
overcome what they feel are inborn tendencies toward the impure and
unnatural," he is talking about sinful acts"
>> I wonder if
the author is taking too great a liberty in his hermeneutic. Acts are chosen, not felt: and since when
are tendencies actions? Isn't a far more
parsimonious interpretation that the clause refers to an orientation or set of
tendencies that are felt, much as emotions are felt?
"Elder Packer
drew a frank analogy between those engaged in the difficult process of breaking
from same-sex behavior"
>> It is not
clear that PP (or his contemporary, Spencer Kimball) drew a clear distinction
between homosexual orientation and homosexual behavior: such is a recent
evolution in LDS leaders' statements.
Additionally, the perverse consequence of the futile, guilt-driven
attempts of (likely thousands at least)gay Mormons to rid themselves of
homosexual feelings renders the approach as one vulnerable to moral
disdain. His advice could also
reasonably lead the individuals broken by failed attempts to be satisfied with
their self-loathing condition, rather than to seek the full psychological
health and abundant life available to them.
" will have to
grow away from [their] problem with undeviating—notice that word—undeviating
determination." Since the situation is compared to a patient who might
have to accept "a limited life-style thereafter . . . in order just to
live," and this requires "undeviating determination," it is hard
to believe that the same speaker believes (as the critics claim) that
temptation and inclination will necessarily cease. On the contrary, President
Packer's earlier writings are completely congruent with the clarifying edits
made to Packer-2010B and his intent in the context of
Packer-2010A."
>> What is the problem? Homosexual conduct, homosexual feelings, or both? If the determination is to be applied to temptation, as the author suggests, then the more important point is being missed: not whether PP's statements are congruent, but whether they're correct. Again, the proposal to reverse or eliminate a homosexual orientation ("grow away from") is almost entirely discredited.
>> What is the problem? Homosexual conduct, homosexual feelings, or both? If the determination is to be applied to temptation, as the author suggests, then the more important point is being missed: not whether PP's statements are congruent, but whether they're correct. Again, the proposal to reverse or eliminate a homosexual orientation ("grow away from") is almost entirely discredited.
"It is not
unchangeable. It is not locked in. One does not just have to yield to it and
live with it. . . . If you are one of the few who are subject to this
temptation, do not be misled into believing that you are a captive to it."
>> Is the temptation equivalent to orientation (a consistent set of emotional, spiritual, and sexual attractions to members of the same sex)? If so, is it not accurate to say that a homosexual is captive to the temptation, since orientation is permanent? Again, I have little contention about PP's consistency over the last number of decades: what matters more is whether he's right, as that is the business of prophets acting in their role. Why else would we be interested in listening to them?
>> Is the temptation equivalent to orientation (a consistent set of emotional, spiritual, and sexual attractions to members of the same sex)? If so, is it not accurate to say that a homosexual is captive to the temptation, since orientation is permanent? Again, I have little contention about PP's consistency over the last number of decades: what matters more is whether he's right, as that is the business of prophets acting in their role. Why else would we be interested in listening to them?
"Unsought
feelings, thoughts, or temptations are not sins—immoral acts and encouraging
such acts are.
Is sexual perversion wrong? There appears to
be a consensus in the world that it is natural, to one degree or another, for a
percentage of the population. Therefore, we must accept it as all right. . . .
The answer: It is not all right. It is wrong! It is not desirable; it is
unnatural; it is abnormal; it is an affliction. When practiced, it is immoral.
It is a transgression. [Packer-1978]"
>> Is wrong a
sin? Is a sin wrong? Before the sentence, "when
practiced…" PP is speaking of something that is not homosexual behavior-
otherwise "when practiced" would be meaningless. He identifies "sexual perversion"-
thus, we conclude he's speaking of homosexual feelings/orientation. He concludes that homosexual feelings are
"wrong!" "not desirable" and "unnatural." If unsought feelings, thoughts, or
temptations are not sins, then why does PP describe them as such?
"If you do not
act on temptations, you need feel no guilt."
>> I think
this and other statements post-2000 reflect a modest alteration in PP's
rhetoric
"President
Packer has also emphasized that the causes of such temptations are not known to
church leaders"
>> How does
the author explain away PP's explicit 1978 identification of selfishness as the
cause?
"President Packer nowhere teaches that those who succumb to sin should be ostracized, mistreated, or rejected."
"President Packer nowhere teaches that those who succumb to sin should be ostracized, mistreated, or rejected."
>> I tend to
agree that PP has made some clear statements about not rejecting
homosexuals. However, perverse advice
and misinformation is arguably itself mistreatment, as measured by its effects
on adherents. It can be argued that PP
teaches that homosexually behaving persons should mistreat themselves through
unhealthy self-flagellation.
"And wouldn't
they likely be better informed—or have the means to become so?"
I do not feel bound by the author's interpretations of PP's consistency of message. Not only are several of his interpretations lacking, but his short excerpts often tell a different story when compared to the full addresses (for instance To the One, which I have read in its entirety and analyzed).
I do not feel bound by the author's interpretations of PP's consistency of message. Not only are several of his interpretations lacking, but his short excerpts often tell a different story when compared to the full addresses (for instance To the One, which I have read in its entirety and analyzed).
"As I have
demonstrated above at length, it is the homosexual act that has long been of
concern to the church and President Packer."
>> As compared
to a lack of concern with homosexual feelings and temptations? That's not how I read PP and other church
leaders statements spanning from the 60's through the 90's and beyond.
"It therefore
made little sense to deny a blessing to someone because of an ancestor's
act."
>> The author vouches to be one that follows the prophet, no matter the position. Is he not troubled by scriptural passages indicating that God will curse to the third and fourth generation? Does the immense corpus of prophetic teachings about descending from Cain and lack of premortal valiance not give him pause, considering their sacred source?
>> The author vouches to be one that follows the prophet, no matter the position. Is he not troubled by scriptural passages indicating that God will curse to the third and fourth generation? Does the immense corpus of prophetic teachings about descending from Cain and lack of premortal valiance not give him pause, considering their sacred source?
"Commandments
against same-sex acts—or against any other sexual act outside the husband-wife
relationship—are foundational, never revoked or varied, exhaustively repeated
by ancient and modern prophets and apostles, and plainly congruent with broader
Latter-day Saint teachings."
That level of clarity is not merited- I see a longer discussion here.
That level of clarity is not merited- I see a longer discussion here.
"that the
church will one day receive a revelation permitting same-gender marriages and
sexual acts, ought those so inclined to take matters into their own hands in
the meantime, confident that God will one day justify them? If so, why have
prophets at all?
>> Indeed! If they are so fallible, one wonders why they merit unflagging and complete discipleship! The priesthood ban was far more serious than the author lets on- a "poorly understood tension" that was taught in practice, policy, and precept for over a century. If that many prophets could be that wrong over that many years, then why not now?
>> Indeed! If they are so fallible, one wonders why they merit unflagging and complete discipleship! The priesthood ban was far more serious than the author lets on- a "poorly understood tension" that was taught in practice, policy, and precept for over a century. If that many prophets could be that wrong over that many years, then why not now?
"Those who mean
well are not usually damned with a millstone around their necks, for
example."
>> it's a
distortion to cite one comment as the opinion of a website that serves as a
forum for discussion.
"I wonder, if I
suggested that God allows the existence of homophobia—and that it therefore
ought to be approved or even encouraged since God loves homophobes just as much
as everyone else, and besides, everything that God has made is "very good"?"
>> Seems a
fair contention. I don't buy the
naturalistic argument one bit.
"the prophets
do not know the cause(s) of homosexual desires. And neither does she. No one
does."
>>
Surprisingly, there are a number of scientists who know a great deal about the
causes of homosexual desires. Simon
LeVay would be one; there are several more.
"But when
church leaders speak against homosexuality, they are clearly speaking against
homosexual acts, not an inherited or acquired state of being or desires."
>> Not
always! Again, Smith is projecting a
recent trend into a past where it was not frequently present.
"If they intend
to continue as at present, they ought at least to have the decency to admit
that they are criticizing the church and its leaders."
>> Perhaps- though a shift to representing the site as a forum for discussion, rather than a forum for discussion sans criticism of church leaders, would likely restore integrity better than representing itself as critical. There are too many diverse voices to represent a consensus of criticism.
>> Perhaps- though a shift to representing the site as a forum for discussion, rather than a forum for discussion sans criticism of church leaders, would likely restore integrity better than representing itself as critical. There are too many diverse voices to represent a consensus of criticism.
"I urge all who
have erred to repent privately and publicly"
>> Rather presumptuous- isn't it the role of the prophets he so reveres to call those within their fold to repentance? Perhaps Smith is not aware that it is contrary to the order of heaven to receive revelation on behalf of those not in one's stewardship? If M4M contributors need to be singled out to be called to repent, might not an authorized church leader do so?
>> Rather presumptuous- isn't it the role of the prophets he so reveres to call those within their fold to repentance? Perhaps Smith is not aware that it is contrary to the order of heaven to receive revelation on behalf of those not in one's stewardship? If M4M contributors need to be singled out to be called to repent, might not an authorized church leader do so?
"If I were to
help stone a man (or hold cloaks while others did so), I hope I would have the
gumption to pick up the rock myself and hurl it in the full light of day—and
then take the consequences."
>> This
sentence, combined with the tone of the paper, reveals the author's angry,
vengeful, and judgmental stance. I pray
that I never find myself bound before him while he's holding a rock- it seems
obvious that he would not hesitate to cast it at me.
Closing
analysis:
I think the author's passionate tone was appropriately tempered by a Rogerian approach at first. He acknowledged the strength of the opposition, and supported his points with ample and relevant evidence. His passion got the better of his reason in many spots, however, and transformed the article into a disappointing polemic.
I think the author's passionate tone was appropriately tempered by a Rogerian approach at first. He acknowledged the strength of the opposition, and supported his points with ample and relevant evidence. His passion got the better of his reason in many spots, however, and transformed the article into a disappointing polemic.